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Chill, Club, and Food: SYSTEM OFA DOWN ncubus WITH AI THE DRIVE IN CLUTCH PALLBEARER SKELETONWITCH BUY TICA ETMAS OFFICE Important info for our SOLD OUT show this Saturday at Glen Helen Amphitheater (No tickets will be available at the box office!): . . ARRIVE EARLY - Parking lots will open at 9am & we’re expecting a full house (45,000 fans). . . FREE PARK & RIDE - Starting at 9am, the Fontana Auto Club Speedway will offer a free Park & Ride shuttle to the venue. At the Speedway, you can also enter for a chance to win a signed SOAD guitar (winner notified Monday, October 15). The first 500 fans to arrive will each receive a $10 Food & Non-Alcoholic Beverage voucher to use at the show. Swipe up in our story to RSVP for your Park & Ride passes + view the Official Guitar Giveaway rules. . . CARPOOL-RIDESHARE - This will lighten traffic & save you time locating friends. In addition, the first 500 fans to arrive will each receive a $10 Food & Non-Alcoholic Beverage voucher to use at the show. Head over to our Carpool SOAD Giveaway booth in the general parking lot to retrieve your voucher. . REGIONAL SHUTTLE - For those who don’t live near the venue, we’ve partnered with FestDrive to provide direct coach options from all over Southern California, all fully air-conditioned with restrooms. Relax & enjoy a hassle-free ride to & from the venue. Swipe up in our story to get your FestDrive Shuttle pass. . . STAY & CHILL OUT AFTER THE SHOW - We’ll have free coffee (from Serj Tankian’s own @kavatcoffee - www.kavatcoffee.com), donuts,and we'll be screening This Is Spinal Tap on a 50' movie screen down by the lake if you want to hang out while the parking lots clear. . Full info on allowable items at entry, venue rules & more can be found by searching Glen Helen Amphitheater on the Live Nation site!
Chill, Club, and Food: SYSTEM OFA DOWN
 ncubus
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 AI THE DRIVE IN
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 BUY TICA
 ETMAS
 OFFICE
Important info for our SOLD OUT show this Saturday at Glen Helen Amphitheater (No tickets will be available at the box office!): . . ARRIVE EARLY - Parking lots will open at 9am & we’re expecting a full house (45,000 fans). . . FREE PARK & RIDE - Starting at 9am, the Fontana Auto Club Speedway will offer a free Park & Ride shuttle to the venue. At the Speedway, you can also enter for a chance to win a signed SOAD guitar (winner notified Monday, October 15). The first 500 fans to arrive will each receive a $10 Food & Non-Alcoholic Beverage voucher to use at the show. Swipe up in our story to RSVP for your Park & Ride passes + view the Official Guitar Giveaway rules. . . CARPOOL-RIDESHARE - This will lighten traffic & save you time locating friends. In addition, the first 500 fans to arrive will each receive a $10 Food & Non-Alcoholic Beverage voucher to use at the show. Head over to our Carpool SOAD Giveaway booth in the general parking lot to retrieve your voucher. . REGIONAL SHUTTLE - For those who don’t live near the venue, we’ve partnered with FestDrive to provide direct coach options from all over Southern California, all fully air-conditioned with restrooms. Relax & enjoy a hassle-free ride to & from the venue. Swipe up in our story to get your FestDrive Shuttle pass. . . STAY & CHILL OUT AFTER THE SHOW - We’ll have free coffee (from Serj Tankian’s own @kavatcoffee - www.kavatcoffee.com), donuts,and we'll be screening This Is Spinal Tap on a 50' movie screen down by the lake if you want to hang out while the parking lots clear. . Full info on allowable items at entry, venue rules & more can be found by searching Glen Helen Amphitheater on the Live Nation site!

Important info for our SOLD OUT show this Saturday at Glen Helen Amphitheater (No tickets will be available at the box office!): . . ARRIVE ...

Baby Daddy, Bae, and Bless Up: Fast hungry boy @DrSmashlove Me, after catching a whiff of pizza 🤤😍 [Editor’s Note: been seeing a lot of people posting the meme where Little Caesar’s using DiJiorno pizza. Look. Lemme me clear as HECC. Lil Skeezers is bae. Lil Skeezer will always be bae. I’m loyal. That double pizza joint for a big a$$ Family where we had hella kids boy we had to eat! If a place give u two pizzas and the place next door give u only one (1) and u got mouths to feed whatchu gon do? Lil Skeezer could serve me a piece of WONDER white bread with ketchup squirted on it and a small sprinkle of mozzarella and I would bite into it and shed a single tear because that’s my childhood bro. I’m eating hand crafted real Italian pizza at Bonci in Chicago now (both West Side location AND bucktown location boy u catch me at either - eating a mozzarella di bufalla joint with a fizzy Italian lemonade on deck EARLY *Philly freeway voice* 😂. But regardless of what pizza heights I reach by the Grace of God imma always love Skeezers it’s like when u see a celebrity date another fancy celebrity but then go back to they baby mama or baby daddy THAT’S HOW WE BUILT, SOMETIME IT’S HARD TO MOVE ON BC IT FEEL LIKE HOME, THAT FAMILIARITY IS COMFORTING. I KNOW I TOOK THIS WAY TOO FAR BUT THERE U GO, BLESS UP 😍😂❤️]
Baby Daddy, Bae, and Bless Up: Fast hungry boy
 @DrSmashlove
Me, after catching a whiff of pizza 🤤😍 [Editor’s Note: been seeing a lot of people posting the meme where Little Caesar’s using DiJiorno pizza. Look. Lemme me clear as HECC. Lil Skeezers is bae. Lil Skeezer will always be bae. I’m loyal. That double pizza joint for a big a$$ Family where we had hella kids boy we had to eat! If a place give u two pizzas and the place next door give u only one (1) and u got mouths to feed whatchu gon do? Lil Skeezer could serve me a piece of WONDER white bread with ketchup squirted on it and a small sprinkle of mozzarella and I would bite into it and shed a single tear because that’s my childhood bro. I’m eating hand crafted real Italian pizza at Bonci in Chicago now (both West Side location AND bucktown location boy u catch me at either - eating a mozzarella di bufalla joint with a fizzy Italian lemonade on deck EARLY *Philly freeway voice* 😂. But regardless of what pizza heights I reach by the Grace of God imma always love Skeezers it’s like when u see a celebrity date another fancy celebrity but then go back to they baby mama or baby daddy THAT’S HOW WE BUILT, SOMETIME IT’S HARD TO MOVE ON BC IT FEEL LIKE HOME, THAT FAMILIARITY IS COMFORTING. I KNOW I TOOK THIS WAY TOO FAR BUT THERE U GO, BLESS UP 😍😂❤️]

Me, after catching a whiff of pizza 🤤😍 [Editor’s Note: been seeing a lot of people posting the meme where Little Caesar’s using DiJiorno piz...

Asian, Bad, and Beef: Imaan Sheikh @sheikhimaan POC: *jokes about white people not seasoning their food and not having rhythm* White people: Have you ever been hated or discriminated against? I have. l've been protested and demonstrated against. dirkapitated-yet-again: jlongbone: sophisticatedfangirling: thewolfman1995: cheshireinthemiddle: livbiv17: mizumanta: livbiv17: mizumanta: livbiv17: livbiv17: raychjackson: lmao yo OMG SO RELEVENT Reblogging AGAIN. 😩 You know having unseasoned food is an actual thing in japan. “Simple flavors” is part of Japanese food culture. No seasoning or just salt. I think we should mock japanese people too. Generalize them as having no taste or ability to cook. And laugh at them if they say it’s racism or childish. The difference is white people colonized—raped, stole and destroyed—other cultures for these seasonings…that they don’t even use ☺️therein lies the irony. Also…not the point of the post…the point is, making fun of white people’s weird shit does not equal racism. I said what I said ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ So staaahp trolling and go read a book maybe. Lady, i have 2 degrees on this. I literally have walls of books on the history of food. White people didnt rape, colonize, steal, or destroy anymore than the Chinese did. And i doubt you would be okay saying this about Asians. People tended to use less seasoning back ghen because food was bred and grown differently. Things like chicken and beef had way more natural flavor, so additional seasonings werent really needed. In fact, for some places, seasonings were typically used by the poor, who were left with bad tasting scraps. Other places had them solely for the rich, since non native spices were incredibly expensive. Just like with Japanese culture, food culture in European cultures are often rely on tradition. Traditional methods are used, even if obsolete from newly available ingredients. It’s why old traditional methods of wine and cheese making are still used today. In fact, simple flavors and limited seasonings are available in a large amount of African dishes. The whole “white people dont season their food” stereotype originated in the US, and is clearly wrong, since European immigrants brought over tons of well seasoned and loved food like pizza, sausages, gyros, literally a ton of well known french dishes. I mean most southern cuisine came from French immigrants, and African slaves and paid servants (who at the time didnt even have access to most spices) simply copied those. The only real nuance is the addition of peppers and things like nutmeg and corn (originating in the americas) which European immigrants had already been using in their recipes. ( Actual soul food that can be entirely credited to African Americans is limited). The point is that the caricature of white people’s cooking being unseasoned is a very real part of reality for other cultures. Japan prides its traditional food with simplistic flavors. As in minimal or no seasoning. So any mocking you have for white people, equally (if not moreso) applies to the Japanese. You clearly don’t think it’s okay to say these same things to Asians, so it is clear that it isnt the action itself that you have a problem with, but the race doing it. Youre a racist. You think just because you mr opinions are popular and other bad activists are on your side, that you are in the right. I think we know from history that a popular opinion isnt always the right one. I’ve seen how you reply to other people who disagree with you and it is so childish. You just tell them to read a book or go to a library without considering their knowledge on the subject. I am here to tell you that i am much more knowledgable than you are on this subject. You are just making up stuff to excuse the fact that you dont like white people. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/03/26/394339284/how-snobbery-helped-take-the-spice-out-of-european-cooking I literally cannot make this shit up lol. 😂 your degrees are obviously for naught. Also..the British and Europe DID colonize these areas…which included the aforementioned atrocities. Not racist. Just have a grasp on history. Get one. How Snobbery Helped Take The Spice Out Of European Cooking I dont think you even read this. It clearly states that while Indians (and it only relies on indians, not the mentioned Japanese or really any other Asian country) focus on curry, while Europeans often focused on gravies and sauces. Italian sauces for instance relied on fresh herbs (not spices), while French sauces relied more on stocks. Once dried peppers came over, many countries used paprika to season their stews, and others regularly used rosemary, bayleaf, thyme, and pepper. It’s really odd that you would compare any country’s use of spice to India’s. Essentially anyone’s would use less spice in comparison. In fact, as shown in the link, India is known for contrasting flavors using odd spice combinations that most countries (including non european) would never use. It doesnt really prove your point. It just shows that you really dont understand how these things work. Your grasp of history is poor, because according to your other posts, you actually think white people invented racism. You keep mentioning atrocities Europeans committed and act like they are the only ones who did them, which gives you permission to be racist. You are the one who doesnt understand history. And you do not understand food culture among European countries. You are just driven by stereotypes and opinion peices. Hungarian paprika chicken Beef bourguignon Roasted gyro meat Just because they dont have spice blends with 30 components like many indian masalas, doesnt mean they arent seasoned. As someone who has made these dishes (and many others from various countries), and as someone with more education on the subject, I am here to tell you that you are wrong, misonformed, and racist. “the difference between white people and japanese people is that white people colonized, raped stole and destroyed, japanese people didn’t” sometimes i don’t even know what to say to shit like that. i… i can’t “HAHA WYPIPO TAKE JOKES SO SURIUS!”  *later*  “the difference between white people and japanese people is that white people colonized, raped stole and destroyed, japanese people didn’t““ the difference between white people and japanese people is that white people colonized, raped stole and destroyed, japanese people didn’t Yes. Hello. Korea and China both wanna have a word with you. Lmaoooo imagine denying Japanese colonialism. Like holy shit some of that happened in living memory.
Asian, Bad, and Beef: Imaan Sheikh
 @sheikhimaan
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 not seasoning their food and not
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 I have. l've been protested and demonstrated against.
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You know having unseasoned food is an actual thing in japan. “Simple flavors” is part of Japanese food culture. No seasoning or just salt. 

I think we should mock japanese people too. Generalize them as having no taste or ability to cook. And laugh at them if they say it’s racism or childish. 


The difference is white people colonized—raped, stole and destroyed—other cultures for these seasonings…that they don’t even use ☺️therein lies the irony. Also…not the point of the post…the point is, making fun of white people’s weird shit does not equal racism. 
I said what I said ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 
So staaahp trolling and go read a book maybe.

Lady, i have 2 degrees on this. I literally have walls of books on the history of food. White people didnt rape, colonize, steal, or destroy anymore than the Chinese did. And i doubt you would be okay saying this about Asians. 
People tended to use less seasoning back ghen because food was bred and grown differently. Things like chicken and beef had way more natural flavor, so additional seasonings werent really needed. In fact, for some places, seasonings were typically used by the poor, who were left with bad tasting scraps. Other places had them solely for the rich, since non native spices were incredibly expensive. 
Just like with Japanese culture, food culture in European cultures are often rely on tradition. Traditional methods are used, even if obsolete from newly available ingredients. It’s why old traditional methods of wine and cheese making are still used today. In fact, simple flavors and limited seasonings are available in a large amount of African dishes. The whole “white people dont season their food” stereotype originated in the US, and is clearly wrong, since European immigrants brought over tons of well seasoned and loved food like pizza, sausages, gyros, literally a ton of well known french dishes. I mean most southern cuisine came from French immigrants, and African slaves and paid servants (who at the time didnt even have access to most spices) simply copied those. The only real nuance is the addition of peppers and things like nutmeg and corn (originating in the americas) which European immigrants had already been using in their recipes. ( Actual soul food that can be entirely credited to African Americans is limited). 
The point is that the caricature of white people’s cooking being unseasoned is a very real part of reality for other cultures. Japan prides its traditional food with simplistic flavors. As in minimal or no seasoning. So any mocking you have for white people, equally (if not moreso) applies to the Japanese. You clearly don’t think it’s okay to say these same things to Asians, so it is clear that it isnt the action itself that you have a problem with, but the race doing it. 
Youre a racist. You think just because you mr opinions are popular and other bad activists are on your side, that you are in the right. I think we know from history that a popular opinion isnt always the right one. 
I’ve seen how you reply to other people who disagree with you and it is so childish. You just tell them to read a book or go to a library without considering their knowledge on the subject. I am here to tell you that i am much more knowledgable than you are on this subject. You are just making up stuff to excuse the fact that you dont like white people. 


https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/03/26/394339284/how-snobbery-helped-take-the-spice-out-of-european-cooking

I literally cannot make this shit up lol. 😂 your degrees are obviously for naught. Also..the British and Europe DID colonize these areas…which included the aforementioned atrocities. 

Not racist. Just have a grasp on history. Get one. 
How Snobbery Helped Take The Spice Out Of European Cooking

I dont think you even read this. 
It clearly states that while Indians (and it only relies on indians, not the mentioned Japanese or really any other Asian country) focus on curry, while Europeans often focused on gravies and sauces. 
Italian sauces for instance relied on fresh herbs (not spices), while French sauces relied more on stocks. Once dried peppers came over, many countries used paprika to season their stews, and others regularly used rosemary, bayleaf, thyme, and pepper. 
It’s really odd that you would compare any country’s use of spice to India’s. Essentially anyone’s would use less spice in comparison. In fact, as shown in the link, India is known for contrasting flavors using odd spice combinations that most countries (including non european) would never use. It doesnt really prove your point. It just shows that you really dont understand how these things work. 
Your grasp of history is poor, because according to your other posts, you actually think white people invented racism. You keep mentioning atrocities Europeans committed and act like they are the only ones who did them, which gives you permission to be racist. 
You are the one who doesnt understand history. And you do not understand food culture among European countries. You are just driven by stereotypes and opinion peices. 
Hungarian paprika chicken 
Beef bourguignon 
Roasted gyro meat 
Just because they dont have spice blends with 30 components like many indian masalas, doesnt mean they arent seasoned. 
As someone who has made these dishes (and many others from various countries), and as someone with more education on the subject, I am here to tell you that you are wrong, misonformed, and racist. 



“the difference between white people and japanese people is that white people colonized, raped stole and destroyed, japanese people didn’t”
sometimes i don’t even know what to say to shit like that. i… i can’t

“HAHA WYPIPO TAKE JOKES SO SURIUS!” 
*later* 
“the difference between white people and japanese people is that white people colonized, raped stole and destroyed, japanese people didn’t““


 the difference between white people and japanese people is that white people colonized, raped stole and destroyed, japanese people didn’t
Yes. Hello. Korea and China both wanna have a word with you.


Lmaoooo imagine denying Japanese colonialism. Like holy shit some of that happened in living memory.

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Bad, College, and Energy: Kodak Black @KodakBlack1k Real Niggas Dont Wash Their Hands After They Pee A little back story on me I’m Karon I’m 22 from nyc and I been running this meme page since my sophomore year of high school. I’m in college right now. (6+ years since ). I Couldn’t even tell you what year standing I am cause I got screwed over on some super fuck shit that happen the beginning of the year. I remember when I first started comedy hella pple was hating on my shit like “you wanna be famous so bad you not even funny” then when I started gaining clout then everyone wanted shoutouts and etc.. I brought that up to say this ... things gonna go full circle And like it’s a real fucked up reality that some people only fuck with you when they decide too or find it beneficial. Then try to use other things to justify why they did some backwards fufu fuckshit to you. You know what I mean. Like use different scape goats to take away from the fact they fucked up. Stay clear from those type of people they will steal every ounce of you till you can’t give to their desire. Don’t expand your self to the last limit for someone. The hardest thing I think for a lot of people is balance. Clicking on all cylinders within your self and I mean like emotionally physically and mentally and to some spiritually. Like it takes a lot of mental toughness but it’s capapdle limit your distractions and keep your energy and spirits high. I’m not tryna make this some sad post it’s just my heart been heavy with the reality I be seeing in my personal life. And I know someone feel me. Stay strong if you need someone to chop it up with and talk y’all can hit my inbox. I don’t want people going through shit and have no way to ventilate Thier interior thoughts. I love chatting with you guys much love - Genuine
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A little back story on me I’m Karon I’m 22 from nyc and I been running this meme page since my sophomore year of high school. I’m in college right now. (6+ years since ). I Couldn’t even tell you what year standing I am cause I got screwed over on some super fuck shit that happen the beginning of the year. I remember when I first started comedy hella pple was hating on my shit like “you wanna be famous so bad you not even funny” then when I started gaining clout then everyone wanted shoutouts and etc.. I brought that up to say this ... things gonna go full circle And like it’s a real fucked up reality that some people only fuck with you when they decide too or find it beneficial. Then try to use other things to justify why they did some backwards fufu fuckshit to you. You know what I mean. Like use different scape goats to take away from the fact they fucked up. Stay clear from those type of people they will steal every ounce of you till you can’t give to their desire. Don’t expand your self to the last limit for someone. The hardest thing I think for a lot of people is balance. Clicking on all cylinders within your self and I mean like emotionally physically and mentally and to some spiritually. Like it takes a lot of mental toughness but it’s capapdle limit your distractions and keep your energy and spirits high. I’m not tryna make this some sad post it’s just my heart been heavy with the reality I be seeing in my personal life. And I know someone feel me. Stay strong if you need someone to chop it up with and talk y’all can hit my inbox. I don’t want people going through shit and have no way to ventilate Thier interior thoughts. I love chatting with you guys much love - Genuine

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Bad, Children, and Chill: * Watch Dra Cuddy:Mother Gothel by Aveku-chan-Kataang Customization /Wallpaper/ People / Females @2011-2016 Aveku-chan-Kataang YES! C'MON! 8DDD galotheshroom: ava-burton-writing: dragonenby: writingwithcolor: so-many-miles-to-go: aworldinneedofmagic: the-independent-jew: so-many-miles-to-go: smol-mother-rose: so-many-miles-to-go: Yeah, there’s a reason for that. It’s called: antisemitic caricature. I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to. dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil. Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.   This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  Rapunzel has the “typical Disney face”: Here’s a more close up look at her features. The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.” If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc). But here is what we have is - small noses that turn up at the end: wide, flatter noses (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well) And then a few misc noses (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button): Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: “obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes” Like that right there on top of the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women. There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.   Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded heroes. Rapunzel does not have that. Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well. Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again. Hope this helps. EDIT: @ariminak pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features only stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead. Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes. Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains. You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.   But seeing how you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to an entire race of people ISN’T racist, you really don’t get any say on any of this. So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization. Let’s play a game I like to call: Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda: Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using.  One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.   They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.  At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain. It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting. You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character.  It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv. And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign. Reblogging again for these additions. I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media. Stay cognizant! This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️ I feel like you guys want to be offended. its called shape theory and character design. I haven’t met a single Jew that has a hooked nose and jews are not the only the only ethnicity with lightish brown skin and curly black hair. for example, ME I’m Mexican and have those features I have met a woman for MADRID who looks EXACTLY like the woman above. and her accent sounds a lot more Spanish than Jewish (which would make sense because Rapunzel takes place in Germany and Spain is pretty damn close by. Also she just straight up does not have a hooked nose. Not anything like those caricatures anyway. In the shot where she’s in profile it doesn’t look hooked at all.
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Yeah, there’s a reason for that.
It’s called: antisemitic caricature.


I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? 
I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.

dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil.
Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.  
This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  Rapunzel has the “typical Disney face”:
Here’s a more close up look at her features.
The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.”
If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc).
But here is what we have is -
small noses that turn up at the end:
wide, flatter noses (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well)
And then a few misc noses (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button):
Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: “obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes”
Like that right there on top of the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women.
There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.  
Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded heroes. Rapunzel does not have that.
Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well.
Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: @ariminak pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features only stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead.

Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. 

omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement

So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes.
Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains.
You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.  
But seeing how you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to an entire race of people ISN’T racist, you really don’t get any say on any of this.
So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization.
Let’s play a game I like to call: Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda:
Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using. 
One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.  
They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.  At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain.
It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting.
You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character.  It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv.
And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign.

Reblogging again for these additions.


I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media.
Stay cognizant!  

This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️

I feel like you guys want to be offended. its called shape theory and character design. I haven’t met a single Jew that has a hooked nose and jews are not the only the only ethnicity with lightish brown skin and curly black hair. for example, ME I’m Mexican and have those features I have met a woman for MADRID who looks EXACTLY like the woman above. and her accent sounds a lot more Spanish than Jewish (which would make sense because Rapunzel takes place in Germany and Spain is pretty damn close by.


Also she just straight up does not have a hooked nose. Not anything like those caricatures anyway. In the shot where she’s in profile it doesn’t look hooked at all.

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