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Ass, Bitch, and Clothes: BUMBLE <p><a href="https://noblepeasant.tumblr.com/post/172812319184/lastsonlost-jlongbone-hugboxchainsaw" class="tumblr_blog">noblepeasant</a>:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="http://lastsonlost.tumblr.com/post/172811950797/jlongbone-hugboxchainsaw" class="tumblr_blog">lastsonlost</a>:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="https://jlongbone.tumblr.com/post/172811748744/hugboxchainsaw-thespectacularspider-girl" class="tumblr_blog">jlongbone</a>:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="https://hugboxchainsaw.tumblr.com/post/172811498112/thespectacularspider-girl-thehookwarden" class="tumblr_blog">hugboxchainsaw</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://thespectacularspider-girl.tumblr.com/post/172811147014/thehookwarden-thespectacularspider-girl" class="tumblr_blog">thespectacularspider-girl</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://thehookwarden.tumblr.com/post/172810629775/thespectacularspider-girl-tostadasheep" class="tumblr_blog">thehookwarden</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://thespectacularspider-girl.tumblr.com/post/172809314109/tostadasheep-thespectacularspider-girl" class="tumblr_blog">thespectacularspider-girl</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://tostadasheep.tumblr.com/post/172808785332/thespectacularspider-girl-bumbleshark" class="tumblr_blog">tostadasheep</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://thespectacularspider-girl.tumblr.com/post/172804142064/bumbleshark-bumbleshark-i-wanted-to-fix-some" class="tumblr_blog">thespectacularspider-girl</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://bumbleshark.tumblr.com/post/172639630750/bumbleshark-i-wanted-to-fix-some-things-that-made" class="tumblr_blog">bumbleshark</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://bumbleshark.tumblr.com/post/172614290030/i-wanted-to-fix-some-things-that-made-me" class="tumblr_blog">bumbleshark</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>i wanted to fix some things that made me uncomfortable…also it was fun kinda redesigning these ladies from bnha cuz god damn their original suits are shit and dont make sense according to their quirks…. </p></blockquote> <figure data-orig-height="389" data-orig-width="258"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8595024a5c066420a4298e1c03dee156/tumblr_inline_p6qm5rEteI1qkd73z_540.png" data-orig-height="389" data-orig-width="258"/></figure><figure data-orig-height="240" data-orig-width="266"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/a044c0b17ce2b9e341dccd2348d837f0/tumblr_inline_p6qm5xEzwh1qkd73z_540.png" data-orig-height="240" data-orig-width="266"/></figure><p><a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mq8oeKcGaFxexUE87V9ZAkg">@bonedragonsans</a> </p> <p>first off: shutup omg. yall forgetting these are fictional women written by a man. “they design their own outfits” is a dumb argument. these women dont exist and didnt decide anything. the artist/writer did. get smart.</p> <p>second. the only thing different with momo is i took away the tittyshow of a 15 yr old. she still has a window on her chest and tummy but a lot of the shit she forms from her body comes from her back and limbs. there’s an inch long difference between her weird ass skirt and the shorts i gave her– i think she’ll make do.</p> <p>ashido is a disaster. her quirk is secreting acids so why are the parts of her body that show as much skin covered? legs take up a lot of the body. the only other difference in her uniform is–once again— i took away the tittyshow of a 15 yr old. i literally gave her MORE skin to show.</p> <p>let me wrap it up with nemuri since yer argument to this was by far the dumbest. nemuri can still rip off her clothes. she is STILL showing the same amount of skin as the original. I just changed the color and design so it looked like this bitch didnt just roll outta bed and throw over a hot topic lingerie set over a white lace onesie.  </p> <p>die mad about me. </p> </blockquote> <p>Guess any woman who likes and cosplays as Midnight, Momo or Ashido are just sluts who need to cover up, amirite? Or does it suddenly change when it’s a real woman who decides she likes the outfit and wears it?  Naw, if it was made by a man it doesn’t matter if he created lots of more practical outfits or ones that didn’t show a lot of skin, if there’s ONE that’s an issue.  Because it was made by  a man.</p> <figure data-orig-width="1024" data-orig-height="652" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8538fcf3bf27329b93735928f145e514/tumblr_inline_p6zmghJdJN1s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-width="1024" data-orig-height="652"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="814" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/b4569d2c94341e719af5b68dbf971f81/tumblr_inline_p6zmjfDdc61s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="814"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="900" data-orig-height="1200" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/c2688454c01b83348c27e4d7b75b1842/tumblr_inline_p6zmk3bkiw1s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-width="900" data-orig-height="1200"/></figure><p>Lets be honest here.  Them being 15 isn’t the issue because if that was the case you’d have left Midnight out.  You just hate that they’re dressed that way, because a dude designed them.  </p> <p>I guess you have issues with Full Metal Alchemist too, right?  Despite being created by a woman.  Even though Lust and Winry are present.</p> <figure data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="483" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/93831414b31e87e0d30de69b34fd8ca6/tumblr_inline_p6zmq6r13e1s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="483"/></figure><figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="1208" data-orig-width="1280"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2557c49fa5b4a4789fb2194bd26aa832/tumblr_inline_p6zmqvoGr91s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-height="1208" data-orig-width="1280"/></figure><h2><b>In before she blocks another woman for having a different opinion.</b></h2> </blockquote> <p>Comparing cosplayers who choose to dress that way and fictional characters who are drawn by somebody is pretty stupid though.</p> <p>Also Winry is showing a milimeter of cleavage and Lust is LUST.</p> <p>Do you guys get mad when people redesign characters for fun and it’s NOT political in some way?</p> </blockquote> <p>1.  No it isn’t.  It is illustrating that you have an issue with a costume when it’s on a fictional character, but not a real woman.  So what changes when a real person puts the costume on?  Does the costume suddenly become less revealing?</p> <p>2. She’s wearing a top that is as low as Ashido’s.  So the issue is not the character’s outfit but that the character has bigger breasts?</p> <p>3.  Lust being lust doesn’t matter.  It isn’t my argument.  I love Lust and Winry.  But OP bitched at people for trying to offer an in universe reason and wouldn’t accept character personality reasons for the outfits.  Ergo, Lust must hold to the same rules.  Lust being lust is therefore no excuse for her being sexualize.</p> <p>4.  OP’s reasons are ideological.  Fun redesigns don’t prioritize cover characters up because they’re sex negative, moral busybodies.  Redesigning a character because you think they’re too sexualize is, ultimately, an ideological statement about the creator’s work.</p> </blockquote> <blockquote><p>“Guess any woman who likes and cosplays as Midnight, Momo or Ashido are just sluts who need to cover up, amirite? Or does it suddenly change when it’s a real woman who decides she likes the outfit and wears it?”<br/></p></blockquote> <p>The thing is, neither the OP nor anyone else brought that up. If they’re a real person and wearing that, while it is cosplaying, they’re still choosing to wear it. A character is drawn like that, by the artist or character designer or whatever. That’s why they’re different, they don’t get to choose anything. Even if it’s explained with some canonical reason, if that reason isn’t explored enough then it’s just trying to excuse itself. I haven’t personally watched FMA, but I know that Lust is a big character/villain/whatever and I’m going on a hunch that the writers gave a solid reason for her being dressed like that (which, by the way, isn’t even all that slutty). But if the whole reasoning for a character is “muh powers” then it’s shit lol, and is open to being redrawn in a better way to get rid of unwarranted fan service, ESPECIALLY when the characters are fucking UNDER-AGED.<br/><br/></p> </blockquote> <p>Way to miss the point.</p> <p>If a woman chooses to wear it and they like it, and you see no issue with a woman wearing that costume, then it isn’t the outfit that is the problem.  You’re either a hypocrite or a fucking coward who isn’t willing to call a real woman out on her outfit, so you have to fall back to criticizing the SAME outfit when a fictional woman wears it.</p> <p>And if she’s underaged, why are you sexualizing her for wearing what amounts to a fairly conservative bikini.</p> <figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="660" data-orig-width="662"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/086f3e2af18343d223d135657e2c07e7/tumblr_inline_p6zyq1Mdh71s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-height="660" data-orig-width="662"/></figure><p>The woman on the left is 16.  What now?  Does wearing that outfit mean you’re going to sexualize her?  If so, why are you sexualizing a 16 year old?</p> <p>If an artist creates an outfit and women like it and wear it then why the fuck are you criticizing the outfit for?  Because clearly there are women who would wear it and CLEARLY you wouldn’t criticize them for doing so.</p> <p>The entire argument that there’s a difference between a fictional character wearing the outfit and a real woman wearing the outfit is bullshit and I saw through it the second it was brought up.  Your argument about autonomy means nothing when there are women who WANT to wear that outfit themselves IRL.</p> </blockquote> <p><i>&gt; But if the whole reasoning for a character is “muh powers” then it’s shit lol, and is open to being redrawn in a better way to get rid of unwarranted fan service, ESPECIALLY when the characters are fucking UNDER-AGED.</i><br/></p> <p>A few points on this…</p> <ol><li>The context of the story and setting, not your ideologies and opinions, determine whether something is fitting and consistent with that setting.<br/></li> <li>You nor anyone else has say over whether fanservice or anything in a story is ‘warranted.’</li> <li>[see attached image]</li> </ol><figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="575" data-orig-width="591"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8961db7534dc7b92b4b155ed14ae3bf7/tumblr_inline_p6zzesdGLq1vbc8bq_540.jpg" data-orig-height="575" data-orig-width="591"/></figure></blockquote> <p>also these characters are not real and therefore have no feelings about being sexualized, so you moralistic Super Save-A-Hoes need to take a nap </p></blockquote> <p>I never seen a more sanctimonious can people. They don’t have to support the show or the manga if they don’t like it. Nobody is strapping them down to a chair and forcing them to watch it like Philip Seymour Hoffman in a Hannibal prequel.</p></blockquote> <p>Isnt this the crowd that believes boobs shouldn’t be sexualised anyway? Whats the problem?</p></blockquote> <figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="226" data-orig-width="312"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2b9312a96460523bf3904595144d1934/tumblr_inline_p705ybDME11rw09tq_500.gif" data-orig-height="226" data-orig-width="312"/></figure>
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<p><a href="https://thehookwarden.tumblr.com/post/172810629775/thespectacularspider-girl-tostadasheep" class="tumblr_blog">thehookwarden</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://thespectacularspider-girl.tumblr.com/post/172804142064/bumbleshark-bumbleshark-i-wanted-to-fix-some" class="tumblr_blog">thespectacularspider-girl</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://bumbleshark.tumblr.com/post/172639630750/bumbleshark-i-wanted-to-fix-some-things-that-made" class="tumblr_blog">bumbleshark</a>:</p>
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<blockquote><p>i wanted to fix some things that made me uncomfortable…also it was fun kinda redesigning these ladies from bnha cuz god damn their original suits are shit and dont make sense according to their quirks…. </p></blockquote>
<figure data-orig-height="389" data-orig-width="258"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8595024a5c066420a4298e1c03dee156/tumblr_inline_p6qm5rEteI1qkd73z_540.png" data-orig-height="389" data-orig-width="258"/></figure><figure data-orig-height="240" data-orig-width="266"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/a044c0b17ce2b9e341dccd2348d837f0/tumblr_inline_p6qm5xEzwh1qkd73z_540.png" data-orig-height="240" data-orig-width="266"/></figure><p><a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mq8oeKcGaFxexUE87V9ZAkg">@bonedragonsans</a> </p>
<p>first off: shutup omg. yall forgetting these are fictional women written by a man. “they design their own outfits” is a dumb argument. these women dont exist and didnt decide anything. the artist/writer did. get smart.</p>
<p>second. the only thing different with momo is i took away the tittyshow of a 15 yr old. she still has a window on her chest and tummy but a lot of the shit she forms from her body comes from her back and limbs. there’s an inch long difference between her weird ass skirt and the shorts i gave her– i think she’ll make do.</p>
<p>ashido is a disaster. her quirk is secreting acids so why are the parts of her body that show as much skin covered? legs take up a lot of the body. the only other difference in her uniform is–once again— i took away the tittyshow of a 15 yr old. i literally gave her MORE skin to show.</p>
<p>let me wrap it up with nemuri since yer argument to this was by far the dumbest. nemuri can still rip off her clothes. she is STILL showing the same amount of skin as the original. I just changed the color and design so it looked like this bitch didnt just roll outta bed and throw over a hot topic lingerie set over a white lace onesie.  </p>
<p>die mad about me. </p>
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<p>Guess any woman who likes and cosplays as Midnight, Momo or Ashido are just sluts who need to cover up, amirite? Or does it suddenly change when it’s a real woman who decides she likes the outfit and wears it?  Naw, if it was made by a man it doesn’t matter if he created lots of more practical outfits or ones that didn’t show a lot of skin, if there’s ONE that’s an issue.  Because it was made by  a man.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="1024" data-orig-height="652" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8538fcf3bf27329b93735928f145e514/tumblr_inline_p6zmghJdJN1s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-width="1024" data-orig-height="652"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="814" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/b4569d2c94341e719af5b68dbf971f81/tumblr_inline_p6zmjfDdc61s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="814"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="900" data-orig-height="1200" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/c2688454c01b83348c27e4d7b75b1842/tumblr_inline_p6zmk3bkiw1s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-width="900" data-orig-height="1200"/></figure><p>Lets be honest here.  Them being 15 isn’t the issue because if that was the case you’d have left Midnight out.  You just hate that they’re dressed that way, because a dude designed them.  </p>
<p>I guess you have issues with Full Metal Alchemist too, right?  Despite being created by a woman.  Even though Lust and Winry are present.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="483" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/93831414b31e87e0d30de69b34fd8ca6/tumblr_inline_p6zmq6r13e1s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="483"/></figure><figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="1208" data-orig-width="1280"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2557c49fa5b4a4789fb2194bd26aa832/tumblr_inline_p6zmqvoGr91s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-height="1208" data-orig-width="1280"/></figure><h2><b>In before she blocks another woman for having a different opinion.</b></h2>
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<p>Comparing cosplayers who choose to dress that way and fictional characters who are drawn by somebody is pretty stupid though.</p>
<p>Also Winry is showing a milimeter of cleavage and Lust is LUST.</p>
<p>Do you guys get mad when people redesign characters for fun and it’s NOT political in some way?</p>
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<p>1.  No it isn’t.  It is illustrating that you have an issue with a costume when it’s on a fictional character, but not a real woman.  So what changes when a real person puts the costume on?  Does the costume suddenly become less revealing?</p>
<p>2. She’s wearing a top that is as low as Ashido’s.  So the issue is not the character’s outfit but that the character has bigger breasts?</p>
<p>3.  Lust being lust doesn’t matter.  It isn’t my argument.  I love Lust and Winry.  But OP bitched at people for trying to offer an in universe reason and wouldn’t accept character personality reasons for the outfits.  Ergo, Lust must hold to the same rules.  Lust being lust is therefore no excuse for her being sexualize.</p>
<p>4.  OP’s reasons are ideological.  Fun redesigns don’t prioritize cover characters up because they’re sex negative, moral busybodies.  Redesigning a character because you think they’re too sexualize is, ultimately, an ideological statement about the creator’s work.</p>
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<blockquote><p>“Guess any woman who likes and cosplays as Midnight, Momo or Ashido are just sluts who need to cover up, amirite? Or does it suddenly change when it’s a real woman who decides she likes the outfit and wears it?”<br/></p></blockquote>
<p>The thing is, neither the OP nor anyone else brought that up. If they’re a real person and wearing that, while it is cosplaying, they’re still choosing to wear it. A character is drawn like that, by the artist or character designer or whatever. That’s why they’re different, they don’t get to choose anything. Even if it’s explained with some canonical reason, if that reason isn’t explored enough then it’s just trying to excuse itself. I haven’t personally watched FMA, but I know that Lust is a big character/villain/whatever and I’m going on a hunch that the writers gave a solid reason for her being dressed like that (which, by the way, isn’t even all that slutty). But if the whole reasoning for a character is “muh powers” then it’s shit lol, and is open to being redrawn in a better way to get rid of unwarranted fan service, ESPECIALLY when the characters are fucking UNDER-AGED.<br/><br/></p>
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<p>Way to miss the point.</p>
<p>If a woman chooses to wear it and they like it, and you see no issue with a woman wearing that costume, then it isn’t the outfit that is the problem.  You’re either a hypocrite or a fucking coward who isn’t willing to call a real woman out on her outfit, so you have to fall back to criticizing the SAME outfit when a fictional woman wears it.</p>
<p>And if she’s underaged, why are you sexualizing her for wearing what amounts to a fairly conservative bikini.</p>
<figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="660" data-orig-width="662"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/086f3e2af18343d223d135657e2c07e7/tumblr_inline_p6zyq1Mdh71s6h2s8_540.jpg" data-orig-height="660" data-orig-width="662"/></figure><p>The woman on the left is 16.  What now?  Does wearing that outfit mean you’re going to sexualize her?  If so, why are you sexualizing a 16 year old?</p>
<p>If an artist creates an outfit and women like it and wear it then why the fuck are you criticizing the outfit for?  Because clearly there are women who would wear it and CLEARLY you wouldn’t criticize them for doing so.</p>
<p>The entire argument that there’s a difference between a fictional character wearing the outfit and a real woman wearing the outfit is bullshit and I saw through it the second it was brought up.  Your argument about autonomy means nothing when there are women who WANT to wear that outfit themselves IRL.</p>
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But if the whole reasoning for a character is “muh powers” then it’s shit lol, and is open to being redrawn in a better way to get rid of unwarranted fan service, ESPECIALLY when the characters are fucking UNDER-AGED.</i><br/></p>
<p>A few points on this…</p>
<ol><li>The context of the story and setting, not your ideologies and opinions, determine whether something is fitting and consistent with that setting.<br/></li>
<li>You nor anyone else has say over whether fanservice or anything in a story is ‘warranted.’</li>
<li>[see attached image]</li>
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<p>also these characters are not real and therefore have no feelings about being sexualized, so you moralistic Super Save-A-Hoes need to take a nap  </p></blockquote>

<p>I never seen a more sanctimonious can people. They don’t have to support the show or the manga if they don’t like it. Nobody is strapping them down to a chair and forcing them to watch it like Philip Seymour Hoffman in a Hannibal prequel.</p></blockquote>

<p>Isnt this the crowd that believes boobs shouldn’t be sexualised anyway? Whats the problem?</p></blockquote>

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